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Kudos For Hindu-ism!
« on: 06/28/2012, 05:32 PM »
John Spong - Hinduism and Christianity

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« Reply #1 on: 06/28/2012, 05:35 PM »
maybe Spong hasnt seen Hindus in action on Muslims.
 
is he comparing abstract philosophical religions.....and not how these actually exist?
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Re: Kudos For Hindu-ism!
« Reply #2 on: 06/28/2012, 05:55 PM »
Bishop John Spong on the bible as a source of truth

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« Reply #3 on: 06/28/2012, 06:08 PM »
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Re: Kudos For Hindu-ism!
« Reply #4 on: 06/28/2012, 06:12 PM »
Great stuff ....this chap is good !

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« Reply #5 on: 06/28/2012, 06:38 PM »
yes!  he is very smart!  there is much to digest from this guy!

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Re: Kudos For Hindu-ism!
« Reply #6 on: 06/29/2012, 01:15 PM »
 hindus dont need no validation from no catholic priest

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Re: Kudos For Hindu-ism!
« Reply #7 on: 06/29/2012, 01:26 PM »
HINDUISM -- SCIENTIFICALLY proven RELIGION (part 3 of 3)

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Re: Kudos For Hindu-ism!
« Reply #8 on: 06/29/2012, 01:58 PM »
maybe Spong hasnt seen Hindus in action on Muslims.
 
is he comparing abstract philosophical religions.....and not how these actually exist?

Whislt you are at it compare what Hindus do to hindus, and Muslims do to muslims, and x-tain do to x-tian. Maybe Spong sees all and knows all...maybe Spong is the real thing.
 
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« Reply #9 on: 06/29/2012, 04:16 PM »

Whislt you are at it compare what Hindus do to hindus, and Muslims do to muslims, and x-tain do to x-tian. Maybe Spong sees all and knows all...maybe Spong is the real thing.
 
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RIGHT ON sca.  i LOVE THIS COMMENT FORM YOU.  YOU ARE OK AFTER ALL! :cheesy: :cheesy:


i LOVE SPONG.  IF YOU EXAMINE MY COMMENTS ESPECIALLY ON HOMOSEXUALITY YOU WILL SE MUCH CONSISENTLY BETWEN HIS OPINION AND MINE.


song has one difficulty...or shortage...real politics and a question of economics or security.  he does not say much about the question of routine security for most people...about their jobs, opportunity to move on and up, how the col/ective economy functions  and how ti must to provide such security for all.


loving abundantly, loving without limit is possible on a basis on all man doign ok, secure as possible by the way society works.


it is not so much than the individual must love so limitlessly and be all that they can be.  dat cannot happen unless society functions that way.  humans cannot become fully human unless humans build a human society that can produce full human beings.


we have built society that can produce dysfunctional human beings.  the struggle is to build one, on the basis of truth about life that can produce fully humanised beings.


but Spong has gone a long, long long way towards this goal.  he represents a great intellectual advance from the abstract side of the intellectual spectrum.  he is moving towards a material interpretation of reality from the god perspective.
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Re: Kudos For Hindu-ism!
« Reply #10 on: 06/30/2012, 09:43 AM »
hindus dont need no validation from no catholic priest


what are you talking about man :huh:


wat validation?


and Spong is episcopalian..not catholic!  do you imagine such like this can come from catholicism?


I suppose its not impossibe but it is unlikely.


the catholic church is an abomination that must be excised from power in human reality, set up forever as example of the evil that can develop in human society.


however  Spong is not validating Hindu-ism here.  he seems merely using what appears to be an existential principle in Hindu-ism to lead christianity on a different and more healthy path.


but Spong has made no other claims for the Hindu religion.  he does not claim that it is wholly or in part useful or useless.  he is not judgemental at all.  in fact that if any religion is worthwhile it needs no defence at all. it must stand on its principles and if it remains upright in the crucible of life it proves its efficacy.


so what the hell are yu joompin all over the place for?


maybe this then?


Spong goes much further and establishes that no religion made and organised by men is the way forward, the way to god.  and that the idea that they are is jackass, demeaning of any god.


god is universal, period, total... and outside the limited conception of any religion at all.  religion is the problem and we should eliminate them and proceed without their restrictions.


if I am not mistaken I see Hindu up in there to be discarded too not so?


with so respect to you and your feelings what I know of the Hindu religion makes it overall as bad as the rest.  the hindu religion attenuates no chauvinism on the part of its adherents.  as your attitude implies here it is prideful and as centric as the others on the idea that Hindu is best..better than the rest... and those who do not believe are infidels worthy of death.


the hindu atrocities frequently unleashed in India against Indian Muslims attests to this fact. by that Hindu proves it is not a forgiving religion but as eye for an eye as the rest.


no religion at all is the way forward.  god is universal and all life falls under its rubric

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Re: Kudos For Hindu-ism!
« Reply #11 on: 06/30/2012, 01:51 PM »
 Maps, hindu atrocities ? in secular India  you are misinformed   , you should catch up on your   history

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Re: Kudos For Hindu-ism!
« Reply #12 on: 06/30/2012, 02:05 PM »
Maps, hindu atrocities ? in secular India  you are misinformed   , you should catch up on your   history

well..what was the last artrocity in india?
 
wasnt it when a whole lot of Hindus set upon muslims and wiped out tons of them on some religious incitement or the other?
 
I mean a pundit might not have incited the rage that I know of..but it was relgious all the same.

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Re: Kudos For Hindu-ism!
« Reply #13 on: 06/30/2012, 02:10 PM »
 The spark was when 60 hindus was burned alive on a train

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« Reply #14 on: 06/30/2012, 02:13 PM »
The spark was when 60 hindus was burned alive on a train

still religious!

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Re: Kudos For Hindu-ism!
« Reply #15 on: 06/30/2012, 02:18 PM »

still religious!
I agree but I have a problem with your blanket phrase " hindu atrocity"

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« Reply #16 on: 06/30/2012, 05:34 PM »
I agree but I have a problem with your blanket phrase " hindu atrocity"

well yu shud not!

wat about a christian atrocity..or a muslim one..or a jewish one?

there are many of those arent there!  wat makes the hindu one any different?

not all hindus were involved but the spirit and organization driving that event was religious.


look here man! I consider religion...ALL OF THEM.. to be the single most destructive development in all of human history.


NOT ONE OF THEM IS FREE FROM GUILT IN COMING TOGETHER TO BRING ABOUT A HUMAN HOLOCAUST, ON-GOING FOR 2 THOUSAND PLUS YEARS...AND NOW THREATENS TO CONSUME THE ENTIRE SPECIES.

look here Kwami..you must prove that the Hindu religion is better, universal, forgiving, loving, protective of all human beings, produces those under its guidance to be free of racism, prejudice of any sort, democratic of nature, standing on the side of the freedom and development of all peoples..

yu have to prove that the Hindu religion is a positive driving force in the world.

but you cant.  one look at India, the home of Hindu-ism disproves all of that. Indian behavior in the world disproves all positive claim for that religion. 

and it is the same with all of them..all religion!

RELIGION IS AN ABOMINATION MAN!  ALL AND EVERY ONE OF THEM. 


THERE IS NO GOD OF THE RELIGIONS.  THEY ARE ALL FAKES.  ALL RELIGIOUS DOCTRINE HAVE BEEN COMPOSED BY MEN TO CONTROL OTHER MEN AND WOMEN.  ALL RELIGIOUS DOCTRINE JUSIFY MASS MURDER, PLUNDER, DENIGRATION OF WOMEN AND OTHERS DEEMED INFIDEL AND INFERIOR. 

ALL RELIGIOUS DOCTRINE JUSTIFY THE EXPLOITATION OF TARGETED GROUPS, JUSTIFY THE STEALING OF THE LABOUR OF MILLIONS TO ENRICH THE RELIGION.

ALL RELIGIOUS DOCTRINE JUSTIFY WARS OF PLUNDER AND AND SLAVERY


RELIGION IS A BLASTED POX ON HUMAN EXISTENCE, AND IT IS TIME HUMANITY CAST THEM ALL OFF, BURN THE PHUCKING PRIESTS, POPES, PANDITS, IMAMS AND RABBIS...TIME TO INCORPORATE SCIENTIFIC TRUTH IN WHAT WE BELIEVE AND DO IN ORDER TO SURVIVE AND LIVE WELL..ALL. EVERYBODY!

there is enuff for all in the world..many many, times over.  we are beset by these suffocating minority interests of church, state and rich elites, that have brought humanity to its knees.  our suffering is systematic not actual need to suffer.  we suffer to save systems that in turn maintain the power and riches of established minorities.


there is no god of the religions.  if there is a god it is one for all, subject to no religious affiliation, bound by no freakin' church limitation.  no one is bound to pay any attention to  what any kiss-mih-arse church says.

if there is life after death no religion would have any control of access to it, from up here in the world. wat god in its right mind would give such control to those groups of thieves, liars despoilers of humanity?

if there is life after death one must only be born to have access to it. it would be a product of nature and as such natural and accessible to all.

all religion is boo.  they have collectively done so much damage to the human species that humanity... to cleanse and reclaim itself... must rise up and burn the abominations to the ground, arrest all priests and popes, investigate them  and prove their crimes and them execute them all.

the religious group is the one section of society for which I have no sympathy at all.  justice yes, full justice to prove or disprove guilt for their crimes against humanity.  and once proven the full face of the guillotine for all of them.

the crimes of the religions through the ages cry out for justice so vast they have been.  it is time to get rid of the priest.  it is either we succeed in ending religions or humanity immolates itself. 

the human choice is clear: come into truth and life or die

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Re: Kudos For Hindu-ism!
« Reply #17 on: 06/30/2012, 05:46 PM »
 all eastern religions be it buddaism taoism jainism zenism or hinduism do not go and proslythise or try to convert like islam and christians , usually with a sword or the gun  and if you can not comphrend this then I cannot convince you and I am wasting my time

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Re: Kudos For Hindu-ism!
« Reply #18 on: 07/01/2012, 10:07 AM »
Close some doors. Not because of pride, incapacity or arrogance, but simply because they no longer lead somewhere
Always tell someone how you feel because opportunities are lost in the blink of an eye but regret can last a lifetime.

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Re: Kudos For Hindu-ism!
« Reply #19 on: 07/01/2012, 05:19 PM »
Close some doors. Not because of pride, incapacity or arrogance, but simply because they no longer lead somewhere

 
beautiful chairman..what a precise comment on the issue

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« Reply #20 on: 07/01/2012, 05:23 PM »

 
beautiful chairman..what a precise comment on the issue

i am tired of the egotistical proclamations by those who want to dictate on how individuals should live but with only one life to live its better when each individual is left on their own to choose that path.
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Re: Kudos For Hindu-ism!
« Reply #21 on: 07/01/2012, 05:27 PM »
all eastern religions be it buddaism taoism jainism zenism or hinduism do not go and proslythise or try to convert like islam and christians , usually with a sword or the gun  and if you can not comphrend this then I cannot convince you and I am wasting my time

its as if prosletyzing is the issue.   it is not. 
 
whether a religion is an aggressive, expansionary project or not is not at issue.  religion period is under scrutiny. 
 
they all have been established by the sword, live by mind control and are exlpoitative, sporting expensive and non-productive priesthoods, who depend on taxes on the people for food
 
they all work with governments in people control, support the exploitation of the people in all areas..use doctrine to facilitate such control...mind control
 
 
here ...if yuh have the time you cud not use an hour better:
The Holy Bible : Keeping Black America As Modern Day Slaves by Pastor Ray Hagins

 
 
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Re: Kudos For Hindu-ism!
« Reply #22 on: 07/01/2012, 05:31 PM »
i am tired of the egotistical proclamations by those who want to dictate on how individuals should live but with only one life to live its better when each individual is left on their own to choose that path.

behind the proclamation is social control for profit..financial slavery for profit..and actual murderous violence if you refuse to be enslaved.
 
people will be free to persue their own course when they come out and change the world in collective action. we will not have that kind of freedom until we make it for ourselves

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« Reply #23 on: 07/01/2012, 05:42 PM »
certain elements use mind control to enslave their followers
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Re: Kudos For Hindu-ism!
« Reply #24 on: 07/01/2012, 06:01 PM »
 why do black people still embrace christianity  which is the religion of the slave masters.
 It teaches a doctrine like turn the other cheek so that they can slap your face  on both sides
It also teaches things like " it is easier for a camel to go through the eye  of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven .
 How about " the meek shall inherit the earth"? ... definitely teachings to supress the slaves

 

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